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Discussion in 'Feedback & Suggestions' started by Pablo, Dec 5, 2017.

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Obsidian breaking enabled?

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  2. Don't Care / Don't know / Maybe

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  1. Pablo

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    Hello Everyone. My name is Pablo but many of you might know me as Pabs_b, EpicBossPabs_b, ect. Today I am here to ask you all about a Factions suggestion. As many of you know last Faction reset was poorly done economy wise and died out fairly quickly. Today I am here to ask you specifically about raiding and how it could/should change. I have discussed this with other Staff and some players but now I want everyones opinion.

    Background:
    Before the previous season of Factions Tyler made a quick thread asking about obsidian breaker. Now the vote was pretty outstanding but the pros and cons of adding obsidian breaker were never really talked in depth on. This thread will hopefully change that.

    Information:

    Pre Pros:

    Adding Obsidian breaker will bring a new type of play style to Minetime. Now as many of you reading this thread know Minetime is in Dire need of a NoCheatPlus / AntiCheat update. The last one was in 2015 when I Begged Tyler and Jess to do it to patch most bhop on the server. When this happens Minetime will see a player increased due to all players being more equal again regardless of hacking or legit. But since then on Prison for example there are people who abuse the old NCP with Mcmmo to get about 8 times double drop chance with a Mod to make there balance than others. There is also the extreme problem of Regeneration with food and regeneration packets. There is only so much that can be done to prevent this. For example OPPvP had to have max hunger set to 8 (For those of you like "No it's 4!" everything is by 2 for health and hunger so you have 20 hunger and 20 hearts) because of the amount of regen and player complaints because of it. Regen makes it harder to PvP because of the added hardness of out hitting a player and causing lag since all hacks that affect server side send some amount of packets to the server generating an increase of data to comb through and validate or reject. There is also the problem of raiding because some clients are tuned to the server specifically but are private while others are not and are public that don't work well or don't act the same. Have you ever thought how some people could go through any supposed "unraidable" base? This is due to the AntiCheat. But anyways enough of the Anticheat lets get back on topic.


    Pros for Obsidian Breaker:
    • Adding Obsidian Breaker will create a new raiding style that is much more open and less complicated than Hacking into a base.
    • Obsidian breaker added in will allow staff to have a better reason to update the AntiCheat.
    • TNT raiding is a way more efficient way of raiding and less expensive than buying or collecting those costly creeper eggs.
    • More players can do TNT raiding than phasing/blinking/pearling/jumping into a base.
    • Factions will have a bigger player base due to more easy game play and more possibilities.
    • Tyler wanted to add this but never got the chance to do so.
    Cons for Obsidian Breaker:

    • A bit harder to build bases as you would need more walls, water, and lava.
    • Lava flow should be enabled to generate cobble walls
    • If power regen, power loss, and power limit are changed like prison it will hurt Factions regardless if Obsidian breaking is enabled or not.
    • Would have to learn how to build cannons hybrid and regular if you don't know.
    • Entity limit would need to be raised if Entity removal of primed TNT is not turned off.
    • A little bit more dangerous raiding as how you take explosion damage from TNT

    Ending:
    Though there are more Cons than Pros listed the few Pro's still heavily outweigh the 6 Cons. Doing this in my opinion will greatly increase Minetime's player base and overall increase the gameplay fun and challenge. There will be a little bit on the staffs plate to make this possible but with the community support I am sure they will gladly do this if everyone or at least a good majority of the server wants this. Please leave your feedback and thoughts on this thread. -Pablo

    **EDIT**
    Trust me on saying if you vote know you'll regret it. I'm a Beta tester and I can tell you right all of you guys Voting "No" will quit within a month.
     
    #1 Pablo, Dec 5, 2017
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  2. MexicanFury

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    I agree with all of it and love the idea of adding Obby breaker!
     
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  3. Popmop

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    Support!
     
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  5. iBigPapi

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    No support,
     
    #5 iBigPapi, Dec 5, 2017
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  6. The_Pro_King452

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    I do not support the Idea of Obsidian breaker it is a terrible plugin and a terrible idea it will ruin factions
     
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  7. Anders

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    I don't believe that obsidian breaker should be added for the following reasons
    • It has never been a part of Minetime Factions, making the way to raid unique
    • The majority of the player base does not want it to be a part of factions
    nuff said. I agree with some of your statements Pablo, but you're in the minority.
     
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  8. PingPongGamer

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    The dislikes on this thread lmao.
     
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  9. OTITO

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    la ya habib
     
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    please no
     
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  11. iBigPapi

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    Let's keep the votes to the players without any bias. You are a beta-tester, not the majority. They will vot e on what they want.
     
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  12. MW24THEWIN

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    **EDIT**
    Trust me on saying if you vote know you'll regret it. I'm a Beta tester and I can tell you right all of you guys Voting "No" will quit within a month.[/QUOTE]
    Why can't obby breaker be added within a month or a certain amountof time, based on players?
     
  13. iBigPapi

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    Because in a month the server will be well in its run and the bases wont be built in respect to obsidian breaker.
     
  14. Anders

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    Why can't obby breaker be added within a month or a certain amountof time, based on players?[/QUOTE]
    I think it is a bad idea to add it right away, I wouldn't even mind adding it in a month if the majority want it, but I don't think they do.
    **EDIT** I am a beta tester as well and I think that using obby breaker will do nothing but make dedicated and the majority as of now dislike the server. It has been like this the past resets and we've always had complaints but the majority always wants no obby breaker.
     
    #14 Anders, Dec 6, 2017
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  15. MW24THEWIN

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    I think it is a bad idea to add it right away, I wouldn't even mind adding it in a month if the majority want it, but I don't think they do.
    **EDIT** I am a beta tester as well and I think that using obby breaker will do nothing to ruin the server other than certain peoples opinions on what factions should be.[/QUOTE]
    I agree. I think factions should stay the same way it used to be, unless majority of players disagree.
     
  16. Anders

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    I am all for majority rules but right now it doesn't seem like the people in the minority are taking it as they should. If obby breaker was to be added it should be because majority wants it, but that isn't the case.
     
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    It's never been apart of factions, so I don't think it should be added. Minetime has always been unique because of it having no obby breaker, and I think changing that will just make Minetime factions not Minetime factions.
     
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  18. Pile

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    I have banned all the alts made to support or reject this thread as well as removed their posts.
    You are allowed one forums account.

    In addition to this the rate abuse is real here guys..
     
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  19. Venom

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    lol
     
  20. OTITO

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    well said
     

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