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Change Admin Rank

Discussion in 'Suggestion Archive' started by Espresso, Apr 30, 2017.

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Should the rank Admin be renamed?

Poll closed May 3, 2017.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Espresso

    Espresso Forum Enthusiast

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    Change the rank Admin to a different name because it confuses new players are have to be told every time. Keep the colors and all but change the name Admin to something else because it's dumb to have it there. Please suggest ideas and don't disagree because you think it'll make MT more like MV because that's stupid.

    You should agree with this because @Snorlax did
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    support cuz why not
     
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    I was forced to do this but I support
    I actually do not
    edit: i actually do
    edit 2: i actually was forced
    edit 3: save me
    edit 4: feed me
    edit 5: k i'll stop
     
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    I agree but disagree with you. It is confusing for new players but I personally like the Admin rank. I mean, when they get on the servers, the rank is posted on a board in the spawn. Maybe move the rank board closer or something for them to see it? This is a really hard decision. It's 70% agree for me.
     
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  6. Espresso

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    The rank board hasn't even been updated and I doubt anyone reads it if they don't have a rank. I never read it either. It'd save a lot of trouble just renaming it. It's hard enough to accept hacking being allowed for new players but also a confusing rank system, inactive owners, and dead servers? Everything about Minetime just pushes the new players away.
     
  7. Carlrwc

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    I am highly against changing the name of a truly original rank on minetime.
     
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  8. Espresso

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    That is no reason not to just because it's an "original rank." There's no benefit from having it named Admin, only drawbacks. The MT hub was also "original" but I guess that's gone for the good.
     
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  9. Carlrwc

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    Its an original name of a rank* unique completely to minetime. (If you hadn't noticed)
    Is it so hard and annoying to just correct new players when they make the mistake of assuming [Admin] means helper or moderator? And instead of changed every admin's title, that everyone has grown accustomed to over the past 4+ years, why not simply just send a server message, possibly repeatedly over maybe 5-10 minutes, when new players join any server for the first few times saying something like "Remember, all titles begining and ending with [ and ] are buyable ranks. Go to minetime.com blah blah blah"

    Edit: Also, while ya at it, (Staff) ya might want to throw in that hacking is allowed when your making some more server messages.
     
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  10. Espresso

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    Original name? Probably because every other server isn't stupid enough to but Admin as a donor rank name. And it isn't completely unique to Minetime since Minverse used to do the same but they've changed it because they realized this a long time ago. Why have the need for Helpers and all staff member repeat the same thing over and over when you can change the name instead?
    Doubt many people have been here for that long and it's a rank name. There's NOTHING to adjust to. No one calls another person by their rank.
    Another one? I think there are enough server messages filling the chat and rather than having another person ask "Can an Admin help me" it'd be easier to rename the rank and clear the confusion once and for all
     
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    For someone that doesn't even have the rank, you are simply dying to change it.
    You are putting out a ton of comments, but no actual plan. What would you change it to?
    I have seen 1 person. 1 person this whole month who has been confused about the admin title. And it was a 5 second fix. "Admins are not Helpers or mods." You are treating this as its a server-wide epidemic and if you think anything will drastically improve, you need to remind yourself that minetime's player count is lower then an ice cube's chance in hell of not melting.
     
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  12. Espresso

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    I don't have the rank. You do but you still don't give any real reason to not change it. I've already said people can suggest what to add in the comments and what to change it into really isn't a big problem. You've only seen one person but I think I can say a lot of others say at least once they've seen a player think Admin was a staff rank?
    I'm giving my argument. Maybe you like players to think you're staff. I don't know.
    You know what's quicker than a 5 second fix? A permanent one.
    Definitely not, since MT is lacking the numbers of players actually joining so there would be less players asking the question. But either way, it's a suggestion.
    This is one small thing that could help Minetime, I see no reason to keep the rank name that just doesn't make any sense to have. I don't see any reason to keep it. My solution is permanent and should've been implemented a long time ago. Just another problem for staff not to have. Can you give me a real reason to keep it or are you going to keep suggesting staff repeat the same thing every time?
     
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    Any reason why not? I haven't heard of any so far.

    @Carlrwc How's that reply coming along
     
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    Becuase the admin rank has been a part of minetime for a long time. And it would be a waste of time to change it. There are more important things to do than this kind of stupid **** (Resetting prison, some proper advertising, fixing infections, pvp fest etc).
     
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    Well it should've been changed sooner. Better late than never. There are way better things to change in Minetime at the moment but this is just a suggestion. Any reason why it SHOULD'T be changed. Maybe not changed right now but still a change that needs to be made.
     
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    At this point I simply cant tell if you are serious. Suggesting I like to make new players think im staff?
    You, clearly, have no respect for originality. It would be 10 times easier to just send a message in the hub to knew players. Think about it like this: About one player a month makes the simple mistake of thinking that [Admin]'s have helper/mod abilities. Now, take the number of knew players that actually join minetime every month. You actaully want to change everyone's title just because you dont want to see the rare ochorence of someone saying something like "help me admin" or something innocent like that.
    Little sister attention struggles
    In that ENTIRE thread, and every simple other one you have posted so far, and IN-GAME when I have asked you repeatedly, have you never answer my biggest question. What do you propose this knew name be that you think will change every new players problems?
    So many [Quotes] its broken wt f[/QUOTE]

    Edit: fixed it lol
     
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    Yes,

    I agree, it should be changed, it's a really stupid rank name to choose.. Also the actual staff admin rank is [Admin] too, you gotta be joking right? ._.

    EDIT: Or the staff rank can be renamed to [Administrator]..
     
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    That is another great point. Althought, and yes @Express555 before you ask, I have indeed read your point about 'every little bit helps,' but like really? Ill tell you what, if you are on a server, and someone gets on and is confused about the admin rank stuff, come get me and I will personally explain it to them :D
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    "You, clearly, have no respect for originality. It would be 10 times easier to just send a message in the hub to knew players. "

    Originality? You want to keep this illogical name because it original? Why doesn't Minetime make a rank for each player's name. That's original isn't it? Where are you getting these facts anyway? There aren't a lot of players joining the server but it's logical to think a player with the red prefix [Admin] is an administrator. Change it to something that is obvious for players to know if a donor rank makes ACTUAL SENSE. And yes, I do want to change everyone's Admin prefix so new players do not think that that specific player is a staff member.

    "What do you propose this knew name be that you think will change every new players problems?"

    Again, this isn't a big problem. Any new name could work and I've already said for suggestions, but if you want an answer right away: Supreme. (I know it's from MV but you wanted one)

    "and IN-GAME when I have asked you repeatedly"

    You told never ask me for a new name? *View the screenshots*
    Yes, it's not a big issue at the moment and I'd rather have servers be reset and other features be added.

    "indeed read your point about 'every little bit helps,' but like really?"
    Really what?

    "Ill tell you what, if you are on a server, and someone gets on and is confused about the admin rank stuff, come get me and I will personally explain it to them "

    Well there wouldn't be a need for you to log in when a new player gets confused, will there?

    Note: Please don't bunch your replies like that. It made it difficult to read and quote.
     

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