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Prison Anti Cheat Update???

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Aptenodytes88, Aug 12, 2017.

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Update the anticheat?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    10 vote(s)
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  1. Aptenodytes88

    Aptenodytes88 Dedicated Minetimer

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    Hello. it has been talked about by many Minetime members but I will be making a new post discussing why I think the anti cheat should be updated. The current anti cheat has been here for a LONG time and I think it would be fun to cheat on Minetime with a different anti cheat. Considering everyone uses Crest, Creed, and Colgate it is kind of silly not to update it, since these clients are all for newer anti cheat.
    I also think this would attract more players because Minetime has something new to advertise. Also a lot of client developers would join Minetime to test they're own clients.
    All the newer clients have bhop and I personally think it would be really fun to bhop on minetime. Also aura settings would have to be re-customized, because having 20 tick aura speed on newer anticheats would kick you. Raiding would also be very different because phase settings also cannot be the same as previously.
    Maybe my reasons are not good but Minetime staff can always custom code it the way they want they're server to be. But the anti cheat is something that REALLY needs attention.
     
  2. Aptenodytes88

    Aptenodytes88 Dedicated Minetimer

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    Ah crap it ended up as a clustered paragraph sorry about that but you get the point either way.
     
  3. Spring

    Spring Committed Minetimer

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    I disagree.

    If the NoCheat gets updated, many hacks will get patched. Flying, phasing, regen, etc.

    A lot of players would be upset if those hacks got patched.

    Therefore, I disagree :)
     
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  4. Aptenodytes88

    Aptenodytes88 Dedicated Minetimer

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    Flying, most likely you are right. Phasing you could still do?!?? idk what you are talking about but people do phasing on new HCF servers all the time. Regen needs to be patched, good players wouldn't care about regen. And speed? Are you on drugs? You could bhop fam...
     
  5. kingofguns78

    kingofguns78 Forum Enthusiast

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    I disagree with that. It has always been of my opinion the minetime should remove hacks altogether. I play with a hacked client but only because if you don't there's really no chance of winning a pvp anymore. If you really need hacks to be good at the game then maybe you should stop playing or actually learn how to be good at the game and not just download hacks.
     
  6. Spring

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    I totally agree with that, but I don't think Minetime is going to ban hacks altogether. Aside from that, I used to never hack too and most of the time I never won a game either. So I understand your concern.
     
  7. xBMAN

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    Minetime's policy on hacking: If it doesn't harm the server or it's player's, it's allowed.

    Basically, the policy has always been "Nodus always wins, therefore don't make hacking against the rules."

    On the other hand, we block certain hacks such as flight that are too overpowered to be allowed. The question becomes, do we update the anticheat and risk losing a portion of our player base because their clients do not work, or do we keep the current anti-cheat, and cater to hackers.
     
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  8. Aptenodytes88

    Aptenodytes88 Dedicated Minetimer

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    Bman you do understand that Crest is made for a later anticheat rather than what is currently running???
     
  9. xBMAN

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    Wasn't talking solely about Crest; was articulating both sides of being for an update and against one.

    More feedback and discussion from the community would be appreciated. As I say with almost every suggestion thread, if there's enough support for a suggestion, that suggestion is always considered by the Staff Team before making a decision.
     
  10. Aptenodytes88

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    I understand I think you should shine more light on this topic though.
     
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  11. HockeyDude2001

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    I suggest that we make regen have a punishment like a 1-day ban or something along those lines. I am starting to record pvp so I can get evidence of people doing it because it's very obvious when someone regens. This seems like the only way to patch regen without updating ncp which I do agree would ruin the server. Maybe also try this plugin:

    https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/vantiregen.31662/

    I have no clue if it is a good plugin but it's worth a try I guess. Hopefully we find a patch. :) @xBMAN
     
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  12. Sookarook

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    We won't be punishing those who regen. Since hacked clients are allowed and regen is apart of a hacked client and doesn't harm the server, it should be allowed. For example, would you like to punish those who use speed hacks? No. Because it's apart of their hacked client.

    On the other hand, a lot of people talk about patching the regen, not necessarily punishing for it. As Bman stated, if we get more support on the topic then the staff team will surely consider it. I'm just letting you know that players wont be punished for using regen.
     
  13. Aptenodytes88

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    But t wouldn't ruin the server... Bhoping would be enabled :D
     
  14. MW24THEWIN

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    The last update made it so that no one plays pvpfest anymore. When you land on the ground, it disables your /fly and you have to double tap space to fly again. Maybe that should change
     
  15. ItsTjkapaaYT

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    How bout y'all just get hacked clients with working and good regen. Then we all play even. Easy fix
     
  16. MW24THEWIN

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    How are you going to talk if you play skyblck? It has literally no anti-cheat.
     
  17. ItsTjkapaaYT

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    I play prison lol
     
  18. AppleX

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    If only you knew.
     
  19. ItsTjkapaaYT

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    Me? Oh I know but I found bases r a lot easier
     

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