Opinion - The End? Thank you Bman

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  1. Popcorn84620

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    Honestly I don't know what to say at this point. I have held my tongue for far too long about everything and it has backfired royally. Minetime has died. We don't even have an administrator anymore, and lest nothing can get done on Minetime. I hate to say this is the end, but lets face it. Although other people have already explained the situation at hand, I will refresh our memories. Noobcrew has done nothing to promote this server, and the administrators (who were not payed by the way) were in charge of running everything. Without a caring owner, players looked to the administrators for help. When Pile took over the staff team, she implemented rules that inhibited the success of Minetime. I have nothing against Pile, she was a great person, however she was not the best administrator due to her strict rules and her attitude towards lower staff members. At first Pile implemented stricter rules on the forums, she removed the post count in the "Off-Topic" section, added a rate abuse system, and immediately had the staff lock all threads with drama. I'm sorry but forums LIVE on drama. Danger girl may have been the biggest nuisance to Minetimers but she certainly made us log onto the forums time and time again. Pile's influence then expanded in game where she focused solely on prison. Not all people enjoy prison. My favorite server and the original reason I joined Minetime was for infection. Where is infection you may ask? I think we all know the answer. The staff neglected all servers except for skyblock, pvpfest, creative, and prison. They focused mainly on these four servers, providing (not so) regular updates that were meant to increase the player count. Other servers like skywars and survival were ignored until the player bases died down on these servers, lowering the overall player count. With less people on Minetime, the players on the more popular servers also started to leave. This has created a chain reaction that has spiraled out of control into the situation we now face.

    By being accepted as a staff member, I thought that I would have the ability to make a difference. I had no say in anything except for using the staff commands. None of my ideas were even considered, and the several times I messaged Pile and Brandon I often was ignored. Brandon at least made an effort to change the server, however I believe his patience has been extinguished like a lot of Minetimers. I left the staff team in March because I was just done with how things were run. At first I just chose to be inactive and only really went on the server to handle reports. After a while however I realized that I was not fooling myself about the staff situation, but knew that I could either leave the staff team gracefully or complain and be demoted. I chose to leave, blaming my resignation on schoolwork. Yes, I am a busy person with a busy schedule. This however was not the real reason I left Minetime. Over the past few months the state of Minetime has worsened, just as I predicted. I was so caught up in protecting my reputation that I never thought to give my real opinion. After seeing Minetime now however, I finally realize that it doesn't really mater what I say, because most of us would agree that Minetime is in a horrible state as of now. Reviving the server would not be that hard, it only takes a few Minecraft Enthusiasts with some time on their hands. Until Noobcrew realizes this however, Minetime will worsen and might eventually close. There is no reason to keep Minetime alive if there is no revenue, and therefore Noobcrew will just pull the plug if something is not done now.

    It is not too late until it is too late. Noobcrew must recognize that additional leaders are needed and must promote them. He cannot let others do his work for him. If he wants this server to be successful, he'd better find someone and pay them a fair amount. I doubt that Collin gave him this server without a hefty price, and I also doubt that Noobcrew has fully paid back this debt. To the staff members still out there, just be you and know right from wrong. Noobcrew will eventually see that he either has to promote Minetimers or close the server for good. It is not too late to revive the server. We must at least try or say our final goodbyes.

    My original intent of this thread was to thank Bman for his service, but I think that his leaving tells us something in it of itself. I really think that Brandon tried, however his efforts were never enough in the end. Noobcrew tried having one person run an online server with a (probably) busy life of his own. Brandon did a great job given the extenuating circumstances.

    Secondly, I would like to commend Kitten for sticking with Minetime all these years. She has not been recognized for everything that she has done and that irks me. I do not know how she has not lashed out as staff, and therefore I think it is important to recognize her.

    So there you have it. I am sorry that I ranted but I needed to say what needed to be said. I hope that Noobcrew will make the right choice and do something to revive Minetime. There is a great possibility that the server could be closed for good in the near future and therefore we must show that it either has to be shut down or there must be some form of change. Clearly things are not working.
     
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  2. FrostBittenTroll

    FrostBittenTroll Dedicated Minetimer

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    Honestly, I agree with your whole statement and I originally joined Minetime for infection as well back in 2015. It's a shame to see my childhood server die out.
     
  3. hihihi333

    hihihi333 Forum Enthusiast

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    Yes it is...

    Well, Its matter of time till Minetime dies... But its not over till its over.
    You are a god popcorn.
     
  4. Chipemunk

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    Totally agree popcorn
     
  5. Istok

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    Preach it brother. Amen.
     
  6. Firerad_Fieritis

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    I find it so confusing as to why the owner of this server finds it so hard to promote those who only wish to advance the server to positions where they can make a difference. Is it really that hard? Come on, Economics 101. When someone is allowed the freedom to do as he wishes with something he loves, that business or venture tends to flourish. It seems like Noobcrew hasn't given anyone the freedom to improve this place.
     
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    Disappointed but not surprised.
     
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  9. Popmop

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    Thank you, this really needed to be said. I would say I wish it were made sooner, but being completely honest I think it would've been tossed to the side if it had been made before now.
     
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  10. PingPongGamer

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    @Popcorn84620 I first and foremost want to thank you for everything you did for me, without you I never would have had a chance on the build team. Everything you say is completely true, however on my side of things, I have a lot of things against Pile because although she did put in efforts, she was an awful administrator in many ways. I got banned on discord by Matt because I insulted her like 6 days ago, when she's gone lol. I always was asking her what else she needed for the buildteam etc yet I never got any replies because she was apparently ''busy'' yet she had so much time to muck around on discord. I also 100% understand your point on that when I joined the buildteam, I thought I'd have an opportunity to make a change, but instead the whole thing was just dead and neglected. Brandon really did put his soul into it but at the end of the day, one man can't lift a whole server.
     
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  11. Popcorn84620

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    Aw thank you PingPong <3. It did suck that everything I tried to do backfired (including that lobby parkour where you somehow didn't win and Pile wouldn't let me change the results even though "it" clearly cheated).
     
  12. PingPongGamer

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    Yeah... I mean at the end of the day, the server is going to close so it doesn't matter. I lost all respect for Pile, especially after finding out some very disturbing things.
     
  13. Sir-Teabag

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    :evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:
     
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  14. Paarthurnax

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    Maybe try and find somebody else to buy the server?
     
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  15. SuperCoolWimp

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    First off, I think this thread has some very fair points. No one can deny the server is dying. You have some good points, but I think you opinion based this and blamed people you don’t like. (obviously it is your opinion as that’s what you titled it, but I still think your opinion shouldn’t make it look like it’s only some people faults.)

    You started off making it seem like Pile’s fualt for “enforcing rules and stopping drama”. Oh wow, a former mod saying that hurt the server and forums, literally what you use to do all the time. It’s not anymore fair to say Pile killed some of the server then to say you did too. As a server on a game for kids it’s perfectly fair, and safe for having rules in place to stop drama and rude stuff being said. If you can’t handle not being able to swear, it’s not Piles fault that she warned, muted, or even banned you. The new rules actually lowered some punishment times.

    Then you shifted all this “Pile was too harsh!” crap to a “MY OPINIONS!”. I am so happy Brandon or Pile did not consider your opinions on resets/game modes as I often disagree with you, and you didn’t even play the server. You trying to act like you deserved a say in the reset when you didn’t even know what the community wanted is probably why you were ignored. If you actually wanted a difference back when you had staff PLAY THE SERVER, don’t decide “EH I QUIT, IM JUST HANDLEING REPORTS.” for about 2-3 months before you decide to quit and resign. For a long time you were my least favorite staff.

    Just going back up to that paragraph, don’t expect to not be ignored by the admins if you ignore the community and server as mod. You had just as much responsibility to moderate and keep the server clean as the admins had responsibilities to put out updates. (Imo you both did terriable with your jobs)

    Finally, after ages you decided “oh wait I’m thanking BMAN not hating him!” and decided to go after the big man himself, Noobcrew. Yeah Noobcrew didn’t advertise enough, but the server probably would’ve died either way. Once you mentioned Noobcrew I agreed with most your points.

    This wasn’t made to hate on your points, as it was a OPINION thread and I think you did a excellent job at this thread too. Anyways since you basically said you’re calling it quits, best of luck in life and thanks for being with the server when you were.

    <3
     
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  16. Sir-Teabag

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    hey uh

    tldr? <3
     
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  17. ItsAustin

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    Not only was this a very well written post it focused on many underlooked parts of the community, and the dauntless thought of minetime eventually dying out. I agree and disagree with the statement "it's not too late" but my friend I believe it is, not only have a lot of the "OG" players have moved on it would be hard to introduce a new player base with minetimes current status. I myself when looking for servers to play I mostly look for player counts. As much as I would like to think minetime could be "revived" I know it's not going to happen. And it's not even the staff members faults at this point. after the first EULA strike, minetime was never really the same in my opinion, and I strongly believe there's nothing we can do anymore. With this being said I would like to commend you for finally speaking out.
    Nobody in the right mind would buy a server with the average of 20 players.
     
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  18. Beeman

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    It really is unfortunate what happened in recent months with the network. Since I attained the position of Admin, I really wanted to see the server's count go up and I worked hard to try to make that happen. I can tell you exactly why Minetime failed.

    1) Lack of gamemode diversity
    I guess what I mean by this is that Minetime had a huge Prison community. The issue with having such a large community for this gamemode is that the network relied on Prison to stay alive. I recognized this at the start and this is why we attempted to reset gamemodes like Skyblock and Factions with the hopes of starting to spread the community out and make Minetime less dependent on one specific gamemode. Of course, this failed.

    2) Owner's lack of interest
    The Owner of Minetime simply did not have an interest with Minetime as an investment. All investment was put into other networks like Skyblock and Mineverse. Minetime occasionally received money to purchase premium resources but this is in no way enough investment to attract new players. We lacked advertising, plain and simple.

    3) Hacked Clients
    A fundamental with Minetime was allowing hacked clients from the start. By allowing people to use pvp hacks, we were not able to attract legit pvp players onto our gamemodes like OP PvP or Kit PvP. Additionally, I hoped that implementing a stronger anti-cheat would compensate for the overpowered hacks but all it did was anger the players who hacked and made them quit.

    I really could go on and on about why and how Minetime failed but I don't feel like writing to much about this. If you ever want to discuss more about it or got questions, you should message me on Discord.
     
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  19. Firerad_Fieritis

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    It's a shame things had to spiral this low. At least you tried, Bman. Sadly, the lack of owner interest might be the one thing that forced everything to head down this path and there wasn't enough money for advertisements that would get players and new staff member to help support everything.
     

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