MTPrime Reborn and issues relating to "Custom Clients"

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  1. Humbertolewis

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    Hello everyone, my name is Robert. My Minecraft Username is TheBurntPhoenix, and you might've seen me around in OpPvP or PvPFest. This thread is going to be a LONG one, and will also cover a lot of topics regarding clients, so ...... BRACE FOR IT!

    First of all, I would like to talk a tiny bit about these so called "Custom Clients." Now I'll admit, I am not that good at coding, but I do have enough knowledge to at least talk about it here. I had been coding clients ever since I had joined the MineTime community nearly 2 and half years ago. Over the span of time that I've been here, I always hear people proudly say that their client is "Custom". Well I'm sorry to burst your bubbles guys, but the truth is your client might not be the way that you think it is.

    Before I go rambling on and on, I need to clarify somethings. There is a difference between "A skidded/rigged client and a renamed client." I feel so upset seeing people using a client that simply has been renamed, claiming it to be "customized". As a matter fact, some people are so dumbfounded by the lies that whenever they are asked what is the client called, they would keep it a secret.

    Well, time for me to spill the truth in front of your faces. Do anyone of you happen to remember Am0d? Yea? Well, it was a popular client about 2 years ago, and after a few months, people started claimed to have "Customized" versions of Am0d. For example, there's F*ckm0d, and there's also InsaneBarz. After doing a few tests, I had realized that there are almost NO differences in coding between them, and they're pretty much just renamed clients. It upsets me to see how people were so hyped about these "custom" clients, and how people who have them were actually charging people IRL money for the client, which is RIDICULOUS, considering it is just a renamed client.

    However, it isn't just Am0d. Over this recent year, crest has became popular here on MineTime, and people have made different versions of Crest claiming them to be customized. For example, we have Colgate, Ensis, Creed, and Resistance. These 4 clients are essentially the same as Crest, but renamed to make people think they're a different customized Crest. They are NO different! They aura aren't better, the crits aren't stronger, and the bugs on the original crest still remains (Broken b-hop, autoarmor, autoblock, etc.)

    So basically what does this tell you? Well to make it short, THEY'RE FAKE. They're ALL THE SAME DARN CREST! Now you might be wondering, why do I make this such a big deal? Well, today I was playing around on MineTime's Prison server, and I saw someone stating how "Ensis is now a really rare customized client". However, what really bothers me is when he asked the server if anyone wants to BUY the client from him for IRL money, which made me extremely mad. I decided to see how ridiculous he could get, and he said that he'll give the client for a RANK UPGRADE. Is he crazy? Well... we don't know. Why? because he could be delusional and actually believe the client is worth that much. It bothers me that people fails to understand that Ensis IS Crest, and that people who tries to sell you it is a scammer.

    Now you might be questioning me "Wait, what do you mean Ensis is Crest? Isn't it customized? What do you mean it is simply renamed?"

    Well, let me answer this question by breaking it down. In a Minecraft client, it is easy to change the way things are displayed. To change the name, Logo, Tag, Color of hacks, etc of a Minecraft client, all you need to do is edit a few lines in the MainMenu and into Assets folder, change some photos, and BINGO! The client looks different, thus now people think you "customized" it. Now... you might be asking "Wait a minute. Don't these clients have better aura and smoother hacks and stuff?" Well my friends... think about what you just said. What would you consider to be better aura? What does smoother hacks mean to you? That's right guys... all these "fancy terms" don't mean anything. The codings haven't changed ;D. Don't believe me? Next time someone says a custom client has "better aura or crits", ask them in what ways xd!

    Alright, I know a lot of you are frustrated at me for saying such controversial things, so let me share with you a link:

    https://www.minetime.com/threads/dont-buy-clients-from-people-on-minetime.36700/#post-434571

    That was a thread written by Jawed, and I must admit, it clarifies what I am trying to talk about. Being a client coder myself, I'll agree with him that there is NO WAY to make stronger Crits. If you do that, even a Vanilla server would kick you for sending too much packets. Not to mention, even if you do somehow manage to not get kicked, the amount of packets you send only matters to a certain point. So what am I trying to say here? Well, if anyone is claiming that their client has stronger crits, they either got scammed or is lying.

    Now you might be asking "Wait, then explain how are some people actually able to do more damage on the server such as PvPFest." Perfect question! Now although there are no such thing as better crits, there are something which I'll refer to as "Lucky Hits" (Yea that's a term I just made up). Basically, sometimes a client's ticks matches very smoothly with server, allowing for VERY clean hits (The cps isn't fluctuating like crazy, and your connection is very good). Basically, it's all luck. Sometimes your client does great, sometimes it is horrible. To prove my point, let me give you a scenario: Have you ever had times where sometimes your aura is SO good, that it hits all targets? While other times your hits isn't detected by the server, and you're just swinging at air? Well that's what I mean by "Lucky Hits".

    Now don't get frustrated yet... I'm not done explaining yet xd... While hacks such as Criticals can't be improved, there are definitely things such as having a "Better Aura". So... how does it work? Well, if you have time, you should test some of these things: Go into PvPfest, and turn on /fly. You done that? GREAT! Now try this thing: Make your aura range really long. Now try to PvP with it. Hell, isn't it? I bet almost none of these hits register, even if you're up close. Now, lets try something else... Turn your range back to normal, and fly low and "swoop" by some people. Only turn your aura on when you're right in front of the person. Now, finally try and lag back while your aura is on.

    What you should notice from these experiments is that they do different amounts of damage (while lagging back hits only do like 0.5 hearts, swooping by does like 3.5 hearts) and that the aura detection is also different. Well, this is what better aura is supposed to fix. It is supposed to make it so that your aura could keep hitting clean hits from different angles you are at, and that some would programmed to reset the aura (on, off, slowdown, on) after every few hits, so that all of the trashy packets are sustained to not build up too much.

    So now some of you all might think I'm crazy for writing out some thread like this. But let me tell you what inspired me to make this thread. Recently, on MineTime, a Admin ranked player (I will not announce name) was begging for someone to customize a client for him. Now being the extremely helpful and kind person (Ik Ik it's called sarcasm) that I am XD, I decided to help him out. Now hear this out... he is offering over FIFTY US DOLLARS for someone to customize Crest. At first, I thought he was messing around or trying to scam, but then after asking around, I realized that people actually pay that much for a personal custom client. Before I helped him "customize" his client, I decided to test him, and realize that just like many victims, he is extremely gullible. He asked me to make the aura better and the crits to do more damage, and I accepted. However, I wanted to prove how easily people could be lied to, so thus I made two copies of Crest: One that I edited for better aura, and one that I did not change. I decided to test it out, and once he contacted me on Skype to see how's the client so far, I simply sent him a regular original Crest 1.6. Well, guess what happened next? "Dude, I really like the aura. It's OP". That's right... even though I sent him a client I made no changes to, he thought I made it have OP aura. So why is this the case? Well, this is something known as the Placebo Effect. Although this is more of a biological term, it also works well in this context. Basically, because I told him that I made changes to the client and the aura should be better, he believed me, and once he ran the client, he expected the aura to be better. So even though the aura didn't change, when he had lucky hits or combos, he thought it was because the client was better. To further test my theory, the next day I sent him the client in which I did make modifies to, such as slowing down the ticks of the aura, making it so that Noslowdown does not interfere with aura's hit detection... and blah blah blah. When I sent him this client, I didn't tell him to expect too many changes in the client. So therefore, although the aura was clearly much better on this version of crest I sent him, he didn't notice too much difference.

    You see guys? You all are soooo GULLIBLE! I explained to him that 50$ is wayyy too much for customizing clients... believe it or not, it literally only took me like 45 minutes to fix the aura....

    Well, basically that's all I'm trying to get to... It's not worth it to buy clients which people claimed to be customized. People recently have been going around praising themselves for using custom flux, and it just makes me burst in laughter knowing that they are so gullible.



    Alright... End of discussion... wait a Minute... NO!!! Read the darn title of this thread! It clearly says "MTPRIME REBORN". That's right, my thread isn't nearly over yet. Time to showoff my works. Now... Do anyone of you guys remember MtPrime? This client was coded by RealNickonator, and at one time had extremely good killaura and regen... now it's trash. Because of how much I loved MTPrime back then, I couldn't just sit here and watch people talk sh*t about it all the time saying how it used to be good and now its a trash client and how the aura is so bad and BLAH BLAH BLAH.

    So now I shall introduce my latest project: The MTPrime Reborn!
    That's right kids, apply for the client by private messaging me this:

    Application:
    • In-game Username:
    • Skype username:
    • Minetime Rank:
    • Age:
    • Time-zone:
    • Current Hack Client:
    • Why do you want to join the closed
    Ok... so what's up with this MTPrime Reborn thing? Well, now that a lot of MTPrime's hacks are outdated and weak, I have decided to assemble together a client with hacks that I skidded (Yes I literally copied other clients code) to create the ULTIMATE hacked client. With the Killaura of Envy, the criticals of Am0d the bhop of flux b4, and other skidded hacks, lets make MTPrime great again! (Donald Trump reference).
    Here are some pictures for ya allllllllllllll...

    Screen Shot 2017-10-02 at 11.42.08 PM.png
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    That's right... there's still ALOT for me to do on this client. There are so much I gotta fix to release this to public. This is nothing like the original MTPrime yet... BUT HEY XD I just got started on this. So if any of you guys interested in MTPrime Reborn, apply xd!

    Also, if anyone of you still questions my sanity... go **** yourself XP!
     
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  2. Sir-Teabag

    Sir-Teabag Forum Fanatic

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    Can I give you some suggestions?
    k thx

    -spoiler out the rant in this thread and get straight to the point of advertising your client
    -Nick came up with the name MtPrime so ya change that imo if you dun wanna get sued (unless you had permission)
    -change the logo on the top left a bit smaller because that can get annoying

    -skype is outdated, change to discord
    -idk how many people here know you but personally i wouldn't trust a client like this unless it's open source because there's been some dramas in the past on minetime with custom clients which steal players balances, etc..

    um yeah also that's one bigass rant so i think you're going a little insane. i understand though because java is so annoying so probably try html5 or bootstrap for a while instead and you might get your sanity back

    edit; also add a tl;dr
     
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  3. Flikk_Z

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    why all that effort? nobody gunna be using it anyway
     
  4. Humbertolewis

    Humbertolewis Dedicated Minetimer

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    Sir-teabag, I absolutely agree with you on this one. Looking back at Nickonator’s history and his client “blackcat”, I see where this is going. Hmmmmmm... maybe I keep this Mtprime reborn to myself and actually release my other client to public. Thank you for your advice xp

    Edit: Also, since you said Skype is outdated, here’s my discord: TheBurntPhoenix #1050
     
  5. Sir-Teabag

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    Noice, I'll add you shortly.

    Also you can quote posts on the forums by clicking the 'reply' button below each message. it alerts the person that you quoted their message otherwise they might not read it.
     
  6. deedubb

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    Teabag actually trolling?
     
  7. Sir-Teabag

    Sir-Teabag Forum Fanatic

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    Really bad internet right now
     
  8. Nik9044444

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    I found it funny too how some people believe most clients are actually a full "custom client." They believe this due to people doing more damage in pvp, but really it's only just the right Aura setting that need to added, a long with how your positioned in pvp, and where you hit the target. These factors all play a big part for why some people do more damage, then others on the same client. But some people who don't understand how pvp fully works, they believe that's it's a "custom client, with better aura and Crits." And lastly most people also rename clients, Eg: Ensis client and claim to have the exact same version to make other players buy it, which is clearly a cheap why to do something, for someone to make profit.
     
  9. Spring

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    McMMO also boosts your damage.
     
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  11. Humbertolewis

    Humbertolewis Dedicated Minetimer

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    DOES ANYONE HAVE RESISTANCE IF SO PLEASE GIVE IT TO ME PLZZZ
     
  13. Humbertolewis

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    I do
     
  14. Jacksepticeyeeye

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    can i have it please
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  15. RealNickonator

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    Why am I only finding out about this now?
     
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    Another thing you might’ve not found out is that I leaked your version of MTPrime... and 99% of people thinks it’s a RAT client after using it, and blamed me for installing viruses ;(

    Hence, the reason why I’m remaking a clean version.
     
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    Could I get the client?
    KingSwitch
     
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    Is this the real one?
     
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